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  1. Posted on 06 01 10 13:08

    guarana
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    Phil Haidl
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    Since i visited some events from Q-Dance in the past years, i must really say that DJ Quality dramatically decreased in the past two years.

    For me, its nothing special to see guys like Headhunters, Brennan Heart or even Zany and Prophet making show to a pre-recorded set. This has nothing to do with events. If i want this, i can download the sets from musicincontrol.nl or other sites to have the same experiences.

    I know that events with impressive shows and effects (especially Q-Dance-Events) need some planing - and to have an optimum effect, you need to syncronize effects and sound - so the sound needs to be there befor. But personally i think that show is not all.

    A good DJ will also make his mistakes on a live set - like Prophet did before Christmas in Hamburg / Germany (impressive set with 2 or 3 small mixing mistakes in 2 hours).

    So please - don't let the Q-Dance turntables be only some kind of decoration in future events. Let them show their skills to impress your audiance like Pavo & others did in earlier Qlimax' events.

    Regards,
    guarana

    Just one note: do you know why Tiesto isn't playing on Mayday? Because also there they only play pre-recorded sets!
    Second note: if possible, might there be some Q-Dance Events also in Austria ;)


  1. Posted on 07 01 10 07:15

    PromoPoland
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    Early Hardstyle <3 ... :)


  2. Posted on 07 01 10 11:27

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    It's not because of the dj's, it's because of the hardstyle itself.
    Go to a techno party for mixing skills.

    And the light effects are synchronized on the fly with the music at parties.

    But for the big parties like qlimax dj's tend to chose the tracks they will play before the party, and most of them make edit of own productions.

    Anyway I think it has nothing to do with the dj's but with the music itself, at least for me but I'm not going to hardstyle parties for the mixing skills.


  3. Posted on 07 01 10 23:52

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    Guarana have your reason. It's good to see the skills of djs and not just the pre-record.

    But Vano, say one think that is important: "I think it has nothing to do with the dj's but with the music itself", well maybe Vano have some reason on this point.

    It's an interesting question this topic!

    I don't prefer the pre-record but anyway it no matters, for me.


  4. Posted on 12 01 10 19:08

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    Phil Haidl
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    Vano, personally i completly disagree with your opinion in some parts. I'm trying to explain why i have this point.

    You're right, you are not going to Q-Dance Events to see the DJs. But normally you have expactations when you visit an event / an area.

    My expactations might be higher than yours regarding this request. But for me being a DJ means playing with your audiance. As a DJ you play the sound, the crowd reacts. So a good Disc Jockey is able control his crowd with the sound that he playes. Name me some options how to control your crowd, if you just press the play button? A DJ can do his job or he can do his job good!

    I can show you 2 examples, why i was going to Qlimax the years befor:
    - Mondello @ Qlimax 2003: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7y1Hmtpe_w 3:40 ++
    - Bas D & King Matthew @ Qlimax 2003: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fnRpysTe38 1:30 ++

    All this was unique stuff - it was different from nowadays. As for today, if your are in an unlucky position, you are joining an event to party and from DJ to DJ, you become more and more unsatisfied because of dropping song quality or because of repeated tracks in different sets. As an example Qlimax 2009:
    - Very big set from 1st DJ Isaac
    - 2 poor promo sets from A-Lusion & David Sonare
    - Medium set from Brennan Heart containing Brennan Heart – Just As Easy (Wildstylez vs. SMD Remix) & Brennan Heart – One Blade (Noisecontrollers Remix)
    - Technoboy & DBSTF
    - Headhunterz playing Headhunterz & Wildstylez vs. Noisecontrollers – Tonight
    - Noisecontrollers playing Brennan Heart – Just As Easy (Wildstylez vs. SMD Remix) & Brennan Heart – One Blade (Noisecontrollers Remix) & Headhunterz & Wildstylez vs. Noisecontrollers – Tonight

    Repeated Tracks ... i don't like it. If you pre-record sets, you take the tracks you think they rock your audiance. But what if your tracks were already played by another DJ? If you're a DJ on a Liveset, you can evoid this! But not on pre-recorded sets.

    If you enjoy "all the same" - please do so - you're welcome. I don't like having same and same - because this is clearly commercial an has nothing to do with skills & personal notes ;)


  5. Posted on 12 01 10 21:01

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    quote:
    guarana wrote on 12 January 2010 @ 19:08:

    You're right, you are not going to Q-Dance Events to see the DJs. But normally you have expactations when you visit an event / an area.
    My expactations might be higher than yours regarding this request.

    Don’t go with any expactations especially when you come from far, most often you’ll be disappointed. Just my advice.

    quote:
    But for me being a DJ means playing with your audiance. As a DJ you play the sound, the crowd reacts. So a good Disc Jockey is able control his crowd with the sound that he playes. Name me some options how to control your crowd, if you just press the play button? A DJ can do his job or he can do his job good!

    I have been spinning hardstyle myself for almost 2 years, not a big parties though, but spinning hardstyle becomes boring.

    Why? Because most often with this new style of hardstyle you have an intro and an outro, and everything what you have to do is wait for the intro hit the button beat match it and let it play, and that’s what most of the major HS dj’s are doing.

    And there was a interview with some great HS dj/producer I think The Prophet who said if you want to be in the scene all you need to do is create a banging track. Which means you don't need to know how to spin. Ever heard the first sets of hhz, really hilarious spinning.

    You just can’t do it in another way, it doesn’t sound right.
    That’s why I said listen to techno or schranz, There’s really more mixing skills in those styles since you can do more then with hardstyle.

    quote:

    I can show you 2 examples, why i was going to Qlimax the years befor:
    - Mondello @ Qlimax 2003: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7y1Hmtpe_w 3:40 ++
    - Bas D & King Matthew @ Qlimax 2003: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fnRpysTe38 1:30 ++

    I can’t see why you’re comparing hardsyle from 2003 and 2010, the BPM is now way higher then 2003, the bass is a whole lot different, and the order of the tracks is a lot more different, and you know what those days the sound was better.

    And those dj’s do have a lot of skillz just look at their history, you will see big differences between them and dj’s like hhz, D&S, they only spin hardstyle unlike Mondello and Bas d & K M.

    quote:
    All this was unique stuff - it was different from nowadays. As for today, if your are in an unlucky position, you are joining an event to party and from DJ to DJ, you become more and more unsatisfied because of dropping song quality or because of repeated tracks in different sets. As an example Qlimax 2009


    Look at my last answer, the dj’s from today aren’t skilled like those from 2003.

    quote:
    - Very big set from 1st DJ Isaac


    The same as my last answer, a really skilled dj who knows how to spin, scratch and spinned a lot of different styles unlike hhz, D&S etc.

    quote:
    - 2 poor promo sets from A-Lusion & David Sonare


    No skillz, they only know how to produce tracks and that’s why they are spinning there.

    Also look at my last answer.

    quote:

    |- Medium set from Brennan Heart containing Brennan Heart – Just As Easy (Wildstylez vs. SMD Remix) & Brennan Heart – One Blade (Noisecontrollers Remix)
    - Technoboy & DBSTF
    - Headhunterz playing Headhunterz & Wildstylez vs. Noisecontrollers – Tonight
    - Noisecontrollers playing Brennan Heart – Just As Easy (Wildstylez vs. SMD Remix) & Brennan Heart – One Blade (Noisecontrollers Remix) & Headhunterz & Wildstylez vs. Noisecontrollers – Tonight

    Repeated Tracks ... i don't like it. If you pre-record sets, you take the tracks you think they rock your audiance. But what if your tracks were already played by another DJ? If you're a DJ on a Liveset, you can evoid this! But not on pre-recorded sets.


    Like I said no skillz, they do know how to produce tracks but no skillz, there are no skillz needed for hardstyle it’s just waiting for the outro beatmatch it and you’re done.

    Give them some techno or something and they will go nuts. And by the way TBY is the biggest of them all never had any skills just great tracks. And that’s why hardstylers are going to parties, for the tracks.

    quote:
    If you enjoy "all the same" - please do so - you're welcome. I don't like having same and same - because this is clearly commercial an has nothing to do with skills & personal notes ;)
    I’m open minded and I listen to everything. I know it’s commercial. And to be honest last defqon I was almost all day at the green stage listening to banging techno and Amok and Killswitch showed some great skills.


  6. Posted on 12 01 10 21:06

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    My most longest post ever in history, took me 12 hours, 20 minutes, and 34 seconds to complete it.

    Anyway, hope you understand it.